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to also have spenning cuts. that is where obama is running out the clock. as nina indicated prominent democrats are saying we won't move on major issues on any entitlement reform. you get the president offered about half a trillion in cuts, over ten years. this is a government that is going to spen over the decade about $45 trillion. it has $16 trillion in debt an offering half a trillion in cuts. not serious. and unless obama moves on that nothing will happen. we are going over niagara falls. >> chris: i won't be here tomorrow. bret thankfully will be back but my guess is he will ask about the tortoise race and what is ahead by a neck. >> chris: neck and neck right now. >> chris: that is it for panel. but stay tuned for look at unusual christmas doings at the white house. let's give thanks - for an idea. a grand idea called america. the idea that if you work hard, if you have a dream, if you work with your neighbors... you can do most anything. this led to other ideas like lerty and rock 'n' roll. to free markets, free enterprise, and free refills. it put a man on the moon and a phon
, not true. obama went to cut $5 billion off medicare. not true. a lot of his key arguments and of course the jeep ad at the end which has been declared the number one lie of the year. >> the one that offends me the most is the apology tour. it's foundational. he's putting that down in the ground. and i want to get joan in here. he puts that down and says sort of his takeoff platform. he's apologizing but i'll be a robust patriot. i'll defend america against anything foe or friend because i'm a real american. and this guy because he recognizes we live in a world of other countries that are decent countries. they're not all the enemy out there. this right wing attitude it's just us or just us and israel against all these evil third world people and they're just crazy about that. it's so dangerous. >> to finish this point for one second. the thing is -- and this is what ornstein was saying too. that his campaign was based on a lot of major big sweeping lies. now, you can look at obama and point out that he made a mistake, misrepresented obama's policy in this way and that way. but that the
, is is the b plan -- $25.2 trillion by 2022. mr. obama wants $350 billn in entitlement cuts over the next ten years, mr. boehner wants $800 billion in entitlement cuts, and we're going to see a big, dramatic negotiation. and whatou and i is -- and all of our fellow americans are looking at is the prospect of a recession next year if the president and mr. boehner can't come to an agreement, as much as a 10% unemployment rate because both this president and the republican party, as you can see here, are playing at the margin. and the national media is not focusing on what the realy is. they're just playing games right in washingn.he folks in office andhis president is guilty of class warfare. fo what? for that? are you kidding me? president obama seems to love the drama. i thought he dn't like drama. but the reality iss there will e is little impa our fiscal future. and as nation, after all of the drama and whatever the outcome, we remain in geat jeopardy. because this isn't a fiscal future any of us, any of us wants. >>> morsi declares martial law in gypt and claims he's not a dictator. the
.8, oh, no, that's going to get cut down. it'll amount to $25.4 trillion. if, we'll call it obama wins. the national media waiting for that one. that's what's going to be. it's going to be a really dramatic -- you know, i ought to just trace that line, the change and show you exactly how it changes. this is how that line changes over the course of the next ten years, if the president wins. unfortunately, neither party is offering a serious proposal to trim either our deficit or our debt. the obama plan has $2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next ten years. the boehner plan goes for $2 trillion in deficit reduction, boehner wants, oh, yeah, he's going to kkck tail, all right? we're going to get $2.2 billion in the spending of this country. let me rephrase that. that'll be a $2.2 trillion reduction in the total planned spending. the growth of our spending will alter, it'll be just about that line right there. we're potentially looking at the republican plan, well, in 2020, i guess the best way to show you is just how tough it is. we'll only have a deficit and a debt, a national de
offered about $400 billion in medicare cuts as a starting point. president obama seems to be going to the mat on raising the top tax brackets for houses burning $250,000 or more, and this is what the republicans for political and historical reasons have had the most trouble. host: house republicans, according to "usa today," -- guest: the best indicator of that would be the budget passed by the house by paul ryan, and it includes budget category cuts lead in transportation, or social services for income security. it does not get to the specific program-level, but he is talking about a 26% cut in transportation, which analysts have extrapolated and could mean a huge cuts in the number of air-traffic controllers, for example which would cause flight delays and cancellations. they would have to get more specific later on. that is the general framework. host: how much does domestic spending consume of our federal government? guest: well, if they cut $38 billion, we have a $3.5 trillion annual budget, and a thoughtful approach is about $1.2 trillion. this small compared with social sect
cuts, the obama administration has finally allowed the pentagon to start planning how to implement them. the white house had steadfastly argued it was a waste of time to plan for cuts that might never happen. but with negotiations appearing to be stalled and doubtless to pressure them, the administration has cleared government departments to start preparing. the administration says the pentagon has little flexibility and that the budget control act calls for uniform cuts to every program, project or activity to total about $5 hundred billion. -- $500 billion. given the. has exempted military personnel, cuts of about 9% would hit programs, operations, civilians and benefits over the coming ten years. it's the abruptness and the thoughtlessness ever the cuts that make them problematic. the pentagon can cut more. it just needs more time and less mindless rules to do so. could sequestration still be avoided? yes, lawmakers could strike a deal at the last minute to keep it from happening or stop it shortly after it takes effect. but no matter what happens with sequestration, d.o.d. should us
obama cut a deal, it will pass the senate and the house no matter what nancy pelosi wants. >> i disagree with that. >> we have agreed so far on almost everything so. >> not here to necessarily agree. >> not 95, '96, gingrich who could dictate. if john boehner did which was walk into the caucus and say accept this or i am leaving, they will say bye. same thing with obama. the democratic caucus thinks they have the leverage >> bill: 20 minutes. here stan collender lendcollender. i am going to ask you about apple announcing that they are going to have a whole new line of computer manufacturing in the united states and what that means leading up to the job numbers at the bottom of the hour. "full-court press," friday december 7th. >> this is the if you recall court press. , the bill res show live on your radio and on current t.v. street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i wa
americans, too, get a tax cut. the obama administration is happening what happens for the aying american families. we have congressman randy forbes. >> let me ask you something. do you feel like a president actually wants this to happen so that it gives him some political ad vantage? >> i have to judge that by two things. first of all what i am hearing from my colleagues on the democratic leadership side they said they wanted to go over the fiscal cliff because we have argued all along they will start by simply taxing everybody over 250,000. they told me they wouldn vote fr anything that would tax everybody over 150,000. you take the president's actions. the president doesn't want to get an agreement or compromise he wants to get his way. he won't come to the table with any serious proposal because we can get a solution everybody can live with. >>> they have a bit of a messaging problem. i don't understand why there's not more of a conversation that starts with the fact these taxes go up. democrats would not extend what has been a republican proposal to keep them low. they are in place n
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's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a listen. >> mainly tax hikes. and as planned is it not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. >>
that the spending cuts go up and become more immediate. considering that obama has been open to spending cuts in previous negotiations and says he is open to it now and republicans have changed from where they were a year ago when it comes to tax increases, i think it will not take too much to get their, although there are still obstacles. host: the $1.60 trillion and $800 billion are the opening numbers. where are we with those numbers now. have those numbers been altered? guest: i do not know if republicans have gone above $800. the question will be, will obama be able to get above $800. once you start talking about the $1 trillion number, that is a politically sensitive number. obama might want to get above $1 trillion. republicans will want to keep it below $1 to win. host: are the senate ways and means and finance committees involved in these discussions? guest: sam bachus, the ways and means chairman, they're keeping in touch. their staff are very involved, because they're the guys who know all about taxes. they are definitely going to be involved in negotiations, even if they are sligh
cuts and the obama tax cuts which have severely reduced the amount of revenue. the tax burden on americans from the federal government today is an 80-year low. we cannot fund the government with the revenues and loss in jobs that we have. host: cbo has done a study. including all parts of the tax cuts, and you have sequestration, you could increase the budget in very short order. this is a combination. we of had spending increases. the worst spending is dropping precipitously and we're still running a $1 billion deficit. it is about taxes, it is about other spending. in the future it will be about social security and medicare and medicaid, all of which go into negative financing at the end of the decade. guest: the debt doubling has been the consequence of tax cuts, lower revenues, the layoffs that happened and the recession we are still somewhat in. it is not true that if all the social entitlement programs going to the red at the end of the decade -- social security is likely to be very heavily financed by itself right through 2014. -- 2040. medicare has a real problem of go
the bush tax cuts and the obama tax cuts which have severely reduced the amount of revenue. the tax burden on americans from the federal government today is at an 80-year low. we simply cannot find the government with their revenues and the loss of jobs that we have. >> host: let me go back to you on that. is that true? >> the cbo has done a study. he got rid of all the current tax cuts, including the payroll tax cut, all parts of the biggest tax cut, not just the top level, and you have sequestration, so you actually have spending cuts, you could reduce that federal budget deficit to about 250- $300 billion in very short order. so this is a combination. we have had spending increases. let's not kid ourselves. we're coming of the worst. were spinning is dropping precipitously, and we're still running trillion dollar deficit. it's not all about the worst. it's about taxes and other spending. in the future let's not forget it will be in the social security and medicare and medicaid and all of which go into making ---financing around the end of the decade. that's not right. karen simple. but
the people, even with the budget cut that president obama asked for of 400, almost $485 billion in 2011, even with the cuts in the army that that would have involved, the army would have still been roughly 30 or 40,000 troops bigger than it was when i became secretary in december of 2006. because i increased the size of the army by 65,000 in 2007, and then gave them an additional temporary increels of 2000 in 2008, or in 2010, rather, increels of 200,000, so i worry we think the answer is always go to be high tech, because it is cleaner, it is -- it dictates a different kind of war than we fought in iraq and afghanistan and i hope those are the kind of wars, if we have to fight, that that is what we don't have to go through what we went through in iraq and afghanistan, but i remember .. one of my favorite quotes is from general joe still well, from world war two, who basically said how a war starts, it always ends in mud. >> rose: ground forces fighting each other. >> and so you just don't know .. and because you don't know, you need to preserve flexibility. >> rose: you can't occupy with mac
they can put up with and what they want and that's why i think we will see obama soon move in boehner's direction, after another week or so of brinksmanship, we will see obama say, hey, look, i'm coming forward with entitlement cuts that i'm willing to propose publicly. chris: i got to check this. would you confirm that? you know these people. >> all of the components of the deal are there. when people ask me why did conditioning leave town? because the people who matter in the deal stayed in town. all the various members of congress could go home, it gets them out of the way and deal talking can go on. the brinksmanship is political theater and necessary in the process. chris: both pretend they're willing to go over? >> to both show resistance and then incrementally get towards -- chris: you covered the greek situation and watched the hell that went on over there. give me a picture of that and where we're headed if we don't deal in the short run with the debt problem and the cliff and later on, what do we face in this country? >> greece is a perfect example when you continue to borro
says president obama believes he can cut a deal with house republicans to keep from all going over the fiscal cliff. the president is refusing to compromise on letting tax cuts expire on incomes of more than $250,000 a year. g.o.p. leaders are calling that a job killer and a deal breaker. of course, if we fall off the fiscal cliff, we'll all die, right? actually, taxes will go up for pretty much everybody and automatic spending cuts kick in on knew year's day. the president and the house speaker met face-to-face just yesterday for the first time since the election, but are they talking about it? no. today an aide said the speaker is willing and still waiting for counteroffer from the president. ed henry is live at the white house. i don't know, ed. a meeting happens and nobody says anything. this could be seen as something more good than bad. >> reporter: exactly. because they didn't come out of the meeting beating each other up and saying i'm never going to sign a deal with the other guy. the fact that they're keeping this quiet, hush hush for now in terms of the details of what t
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that could drag the economy into recession. obama said on wednesday that federal revenues will not reach the level needed to implement his proposals to cut the deficit unless taxes are raid on the wealthy. >> there is a bottom-line amount of revenue that is required in order for us to get a real, meaningful deficit reduction plan. >> obama added that if republican officials acknowledged this reality, the actual numbers proposed by each party are not that far apart. republicans have made a counteroffer. they want to raise revenue by reviewing the current tax deduke system. house speaker john boehner has urged the president to compromise. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. now we need a response from the white house. >> unless the two sides reach an agreement by the end of this year, the automatic tax increases and spending cuts will take effect in the new year. >>> time to get a check on the markets now. the nikkei here in tokyo rose above the key 9,500 level as concerns about the u.s. economy eased. the nikkei index right now trading at 9521, a
: that is what might be caught -- cut? guest: that is what automatically expires. president obama has said as part of the deal i want to make, the benefits should continue. republicans have not taken a firm stand. we have seen in the past obama has had to make a deal on taxes. host: what specific benefits do these programs provide? guest: usually some kind of a cash benefit or they may help the search for a job. it is usually about $300 a week. it can vary from state sen. in the mississippi i want to say it is closer to $200. host: how are the programs funded? guest: they are funded through payroll taxes. through the trust the state administers the program and the money goes to the unemployed. host: talk about qualifications for unemployment insurance. what do people have to meet in order to apply? guest: generally what you have to do is you have to have a year of earnings. your earnings have to meet a certain threshold. you have to have been let go from a job. you cannot storm off having quit and necessarily qualify for -- to qualify for unemployment benefits. if he graduated from college
's constitution is set for next week. >>> president obama is taking his message of mid-class tax cuts back on the road. he's heading to m tomorrow the plant is a uaw shop and it's expected to pull him into the debate over the union's and to organize workers. those are your top stories. "reliable sources" is up at the top of the hour but right now back to "fareed zakaria gps." >>> one out of two men will develop cancer in their lifetime. women are a little luckier. one out of three will get it. regards of your sex, those are terrifying numbers. but all of that could change because cures are inside. this is the president of the world's largest cancer center, m.d. anderson in houston, texas. >>> you believe we are at a point where we could actually cure cancer. >> i think we're at a major turning point in the history of cancer medicine where we have a very deep understanding of how it comes about and if it is established, how to deal with it. want and we have game-changing technological skranss that allow us to do much better care, cancer care of patients. >> what is the game-changing technol
that president obama will cut a deal or try to with the iranian regime over their nuclear weapons program that will, in fact, sacrifice the people of the iran. i would like to ask ali if you can add to some of those good suggestions that emanuele made earlier about tying in the human rights agenda and the nuclear agenda. i believe the best investment we can make is help the people i read get rid of the regime. >> thank you for the question. the united states has a fairly good experience in this regard many people in the group assembled here today belong to the right age group. you remember, some of you, the bad old days of the cold war but you also remember how the united states managed to start the helsinki process with the soviet union. the idea was that negotiations between the u.s. and the soviet regime -- and the iranian regime should not only be about nuclear proliferation but also a human in. in the soviet society, they felt there is international support and i knew there was a government outside their own totalitarian system trying to give them a push. that was important. another
hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> you see president obama's full interview with abc's barbara walters friday night on "20/20." boehner is demanding the about the give more details on spej cuts he'd accept in a final deal. the white house says they've made substantial reductions in spending but republicans haven't offered specifics on revenue increases. >>> opec ministers are meeting as we speak for their annual meeting in vienna. the 12-member group is widely expected to maintain current output targets. steve sedgwick is in vienna braving the cold for us. hopefully with some sausages. catching up with some of the ministers before the meeting. what are you hearing there, steve? >> reporter: yeah. well, on the first point, no food just yet. but i'm ever hopeful that we'll find something in what is a great cuisine delight, i.e. the town of vienna. on the second point, lots of questions, not many answers yet. clearly opec is pumping as much as they can. 31 million barrels a day or give or take a decimal. and yet the call for opec oil in 2013 is seen as
, we have the tax cuts, the bush tax cuts and the obama tax cuts which have severely reduced the amount of revenue. the tax burden on americans from the federal government today is an 80-year low. we cannot fund the government with the revenues and loss in jobs that we have. host: cbo has done a study. including all parts of the tax cuts, and you have sequestration, you could increase the budget in very short order. this is a combination. we have had spending increases. the worst spending is dropping precipitously and we're still running a $1 billion deficit. it is about taxes, it is about other spending. in the future it will be about social security and medicare and medicaid, all of which go into negative financing at the end of the decade. guest: the debt doubling has been the consequence of tax cuts, lower revenues, the layoffs that happened and the recession we are still somewhat in. it is not true that all the social entitlement programs are going to the red at the end of the decade -- social security is likely to be very heavily financed by itself right through 2040. medicare has
for oneyear. then its sprang back to life as part of the extension of the bush tax cuts that president obama signed into law. you have a debate -- very few members dispute that it needs to be continued. the debate is over whether you continue it at the current level. there is an exemption level, $10 million for a couple. or at the white house would prefer a 45% rate. that is the debate right now. there's a split among democrats. the white house wants a less generous estate tax. max-leaning states like baucu baucus. host: that was the headline recently in "the wall street journal," showing the senators. at its highest, was that was the estate tax? how many people did the estate tax affect? guest: we are talking tens of thousands. right now it affects 3000 the estates. the exemption level is set high historical novel. it has come down significantly. big argument from conservatives is it hits small businesses and farms. the number a hits is a small fraction. host: if nothing happens, what happens to the estate tax? guest: then it goes back to the levels of an exemption of $1 million. host: and
that's what w. and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he's already doing, from the looks of things, get this deal done right and get it done on time. he knows fail to cut this on schedule is a risk of unclear dimension. nobody knows, i don't, how bad the whirlwinds will be if he we fail to do this on time. one thing for certain, no guarantee that a huge drop in faith of the world economic markets will be followed by a quick rebound. as i said, this is a real cliff, not a bungee jump. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" from new york. senator jim demint has met his waterloo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> one republican senator said, i'm quoting him now, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republica
and spending cuts is 25 days away. president obama made a special point to sit with a middle class family in virginia this afternoon. he was trying to offer an example of who would be hurt by the republican tax proposal. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives the sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> republicans are standing behind their counter-offer to chose tax loopholes and limit some deductions. they say the president needs to deliver a new plan that they can agree on and soon. it's also important to note that congress is scheduled to adjourn december 21st and the president is supposed to be headed to hawaii for vacation on december 17. >>> after doing some downsizing starbucks is back to brewing up some expansion plans and that includes another san francisco store. at market and sanchez. cbs 5 reporter mike sugerman tells us some small businesses in that area are trying to grind that plan to a halt. >> reporter: there are 85 starbucks properties in san francisco. do we need 86? >>
right. 19 minutes after the top of the hour. moving on, president obama's offer on the fiscal cliff cuts billions in defense spending. colonel oliver north says that will lead to disaster. he is here next. and tony hawk is here to show us a few new tricks, including one for all those parents out there whose kids will think are cool. i don't know if i'd do it in the rain, but he can. he's a prompt but olympic gabby douglas is here. a huge show! i think shaq in the house, too. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >> gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. james holmes expected to appear in court today. this will be the first time we look at him since he was taken to the hospital f
a budget in three years. never had a budget. i think the senate democrats and president obama, want us to go over the fiscal cliff, they get a bunch of revenue, and return in dribs and drabs on the american middle class, they keep the majority of revenue, spending cuts can be finessed. lou: we looked at total spending under boehner plan and as we understand them obama plan, and no plan, they end ought about the -- end at about the same place in 2022. this is madness. >> the obama drama that is surrounding this negotiation. over an inconsequential increase of a tax over 2%, and no affect, across 10 years of national debt that is madness. >> this is nuts, it is unnecessary, but this is politics, it has nothing to do with policy. lou: and who is the beneficiary of that? >> well, look, president obama ran on this he was elected with a margin that is substantial enough to warrant this public opinion supports him, public opinion supports his position, and public opinion will support obama over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and
and the white house backed military cuts and the new fiscal cliff counteroffer to president obama is hinting at billions more. $500 billion over the next ten years! in addition to the stuff they already cut. joining us now it expand this fox news contributor and author of "heros proved," colonel oliver north. he says this could be an unmitigated disaster for national security. as you travel around in the bus on the book tour, this has got to be bothering you more than anything else. this is your legacy. these are the people that you've covered and this is how prepared we are for a future conflict. >> just over the weekend we saw the rescue of an american doctor from colorado in afghanistan by a u.s. navy raid seal team. right? same guys i was with just a few weeks ago out in afghanistan working with afghan troops. what you're about to see in this sequester are cuts that will make those operations impossible. benghazi. people were talking why didn't they react to benghazi? because there was no marine expedition in the area. that will become commonplace with sequester. one more carrier battle
says that. >> eric: president obama offered zero credible spending cuts. zero. he said, we'll defer spending cuts ten, 20 years down the road if we get the tax increases in the meantime. i think it's time -- brit hume had an idea that it may look like the republicans are going to be the problem if we go off the fiscal cliff. i'm going to tend to disagree with what he's going to say. take a listen. >> the american people say it's the gop's fault when the president obviously isn't giving anything at all up. >> well, bill, you know that and i know that in part because we watch fox news and fox news reports it that way, which is the straightforward way to report it. you can find that out from reading other media, but you have to read it carefully because it's not apparent. all the conversation, all the discussion, all the news that's made in this whole discussion since the end of the election has been about what? it's been about tax rates on the rich. >> right. >> that has been the whole story. >> steve: it should be about spending. there are polls that show 60% of americans say go ah
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republican party into total disarray. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> congressman jim clyburn of south carolina and eugene robinson on the latest republican fiasco. >>> plus, congressman chris van hollen on john boehner's latest concession on the fiscal cliff. michael eric dyson and donna gentile-o'donnell on the political fallout. howard dean on chris christie's big decision on the obama care exchange. and apple's ceo breaks big news to nbc's brian williams. >> next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> tonight, a story of economic patriotism in an era of bain capital with e.j. dionne. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the reality of the election is start to set in on members of the republican party. republican senator jim demint of south caroli
to be made permanent. obama wants 45% rate and 3.5 million cut off. that mid way between today's rates and old rate. the problem is that even some democrats are siding with republicans saying they want it keep current rates. all the sides here tyler remain very far apart. wealthy families need 20 rewrite their wills and charity plans. for the country, there are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. under old rates, they raise $532 billion by 2021. obama plan raised around $270 billion, about half. gop raises about $161 billion. the fight over taxing the rich, especially in the estate tax, is far from over. back to you, tyler. >> not the first time the estate tax has come up in these kinds of negotiations. in 2010, the estate tax was zero for that year. the people who passed way in that year had nothing subject to tax. let's talk about the guy who might eventually be interested in the estate tax. we just learned the identity of the second big powerball winner from a wealthy neighborhood in phoenix. his name is matthew good. it is good to be good. he is taking his winnings he says in
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